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Experienced mentoring - Part 2

Progressio mentoring programme

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The "Progressio" mentoring programme is one of two lines of the university's Helene Lange Mentoring Programme. It is aimed at female academics who have their sights set on a professorship - experienced postdoctoral researchers, junior research group leaders, junior professors and tenure-track professors. The programme is designed to encourage highly qualified women in science to consistently pursue their career goals. In addition to mentoring by an experienced person of their own choice from their own subject, it includes a supporting programme of workshops, individual coaching sessions and discussion evenings. "Progressio" is funded by the Female Professors Programme, a funding programme of the Federal Ministry of Education and Research. The first round began in 2020 and lasted one year. Applications are currently open for the second round, which starts at the end of September with a kick-off event. Six to eight mentoring tandems could take part.

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  • The one-to-one mentoring relationship is the core of the "Progressio" programme. Illustration: istock/Ponomariova_Maria

Experienced accompaniment - Part 1

The university supports young female scientists through a mentoring programme. In the first part, geochemist Sinikka Lennartz and her mentor Julia Pongratz report on their experiences with the programme.

The university supports young female scientists through a mentoring programme. In the first part, geochemist Sinikka Lennartz and her mentor Julia Pongratz report on their experiences with the programme.

"A little more serenity"

The mentee: Prof. Dr Sinikka Lennartz has been Junior Professor of Biogeochemical Ocean Modelling at the Institute of Chemistry and Biology of the Marine Environment (ICBM) at the University of Oldenburg since April 2021. She is currently on leave of absence for a one-year research stay at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the USA. Previously, she was a postdoctoral researcher in the Marine Geochemistry research group, a bridge group between the Max Planck Institute for Marine Microbiology and the ICBM. Lennartz studied geoecology in Tübingen and Braunschweig and wrote her doctoral thesis at the GEOMAR Helmholtz Centre for Ocean Research Kiel.

"I already gained a lot of experience at research institutes during my studies. Since then, I realised that I wanted to pursue a career in science. When I applied for the mentoring programme, I was a postdoc and wanted to take the next step towards group leadership. As a mentor, I was looking for someone who had already travelled this path.

It was actually not that easy to find a female mentor in my field. The topic of modelling is very male-dominated. But then I came across Julia: She is a renowned researcher in a field that doesn't overlap too much with mine, but is similar enough to be able to exchange ideas well. We didn't know each other before.

My initial intention was to gain a retrospective perspective with Julia's help. I wanted to be able to better formulate and reflect on my position. But during our discussions, the help quickly became very specific. For example, the topic was: How do I conduct a job interview? Julia provided me with questionnaires because she had of course already thought about this. She also gave me a lot of support with the application procedure for my junior professorship, which was really great.

I thought it was good that the "Progressio" programme pursues three complementary approaches. Firstly, you have the mentoring relationship, then the exchange with other female academics who are at the same career stage and have the same questions. And then, of course, the courses that round off the whole thing. For example, I found the workshops on time management and conflict management very helpful.

What I took away for myself is a bit more composure. Through the discussions with Julia and the other participants, I realised that uncertainties are normal in such a new phase.

Even after the programme is over, Julia and I are still in contact. If I have a question, I send her a short email and her answer usually gives me a new perspective on my problem. That's a good way to go, because we're both busy with work and family."

"There is a lot of catching up to do in the STEM subjects"

The mentor: Prof Dr Julia Pongratz has held the Chair of Physical Geography and Land Use Systems at Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München since 2018. She previously headed an independent junior research group at the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg within the Emmy Noether Programme of the German Research Foundation. Her research focuses on earth system modelling and feedbacks between humans, climate and vegetation.

"I immediately said yes when Sinikka asked me if I would like to be her mentor. I enjoy supporting ambitious young scientists on their path. After all, it doesn't have to be the case that everyone reinvents the wheel. I have benefited from Minerva-FemmeNet, a similar programme run by the Max Planck Society for young female scientists. So I know how much it helps to express your thoughts to another person. It's important that someone listens, understands, nods and asks questions. And to show you that some fears are completely understandable and problems can be overcome.

Many of the questions Sinikka is currently facing also made me sweat not so long ago. The Emmy Noether Programme trains you well, but it's quite different when you actually have to hire someone for the first time, for example. I can well understand what a headache that is - it wasn't that long ago for me either.

As far as the gender balance is concerned, there is still a lot of catching up to do in the STEM subjects - Maths, Computing Science, Natural Sciences and Technology. As a result, women have to do a lot more. It's significant how much more time I spend on appointment committees and similar bodies compared to my male colleagues, and I'm asked more frequently for expert opinions, including for other universities. All of that adds up. But I also think it's important to take on these tasks, because otherwise it probably won't be possible to achieve a balanced gender ratio for professorships, for example. I would like to see the additional time required compensated for. At some universities, for example, there are additional postdoctoral positions or reduced teaching commitments for women in leadership positions, but unfortunately this has so far been the exception.

As important as the advancement of women is: I can also see that something is changing in the next generation. In my case, it's now the male postdocs who are going on parental leave and actually need more support. This gives us hope that special programmes to promote women may soon no longer be necessary."

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